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>> john mccain thought this was the big question. >> did you disagree on president obama on the surge in afghanistan? >> but in fact this is the most pressing question facing the new secretary of defense. >> when we hear report that is there are upwards of 19,000 sexual assaults in the military against women it is unacceptable. i need a strong commitment from you that you will treat our ment military families in the way that you would look after your own. >> on the issue of sexual assaults the devil is the military i don't know if you have seen "the in visible war". >> yes. >> i would ask that your commitment to the prosecution and holding accountable the people who are involved in this but also the victim. >> yes, i will agree to that. >> yes, sexual assault in the military is the issue facing the secretary of defense. he has no voice on his country's policy on israel. every minute spent on that today in that hearing was a complete waste of time. and there is no disagreement on this country's policy towards israel. all democrats in the senate disagree with republicans on israel. and
>> john mccain thought this was the big question. >> did you disagree on president obama on the surge in afghanistan? >> but in fact this is the most pressing question facing the new secretary of defense. >> when we hear report that is there are upwards of 19,000 sexual assaults in the military against women it is unacceptable. i need a strong commitment from you that you will treat our ment military families in the way that you would look after your own. >> on the...
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that's just unbelievable, that those words came out of john mccain's mouth. >> is mccain bitter? i mean, mccain really went after him. it looked like hagel was caught off guard, like john, you and i have been friends for a long time. i did some good things for you. i supported you when i needed it. and you know i'm qualified for this job to be the head of the pentagon, defense secretary. it was almost like he was stunned by it. your thoughts. >> i think you're right. i think it was very personal. i was stunned by it, too. especially the way mccain kept pursuing it and pursuing it. clearly, john wanted chuck to say yes, i was wrong and you were right. and of course the verdict of history, as hagel tried to say, is still out on that. and frankly, in my view as a soldier, the surge had almost nothing to do with the actual increase in american troops. what it had to do was the coincidence of a number of things that were already moving in iraq. not least of which was the awakening. and it had to do with very frankly a general by the name of david petraeus taking advantage of this in o
that's just unbelievable, that those words came out of john mccain's mouth. >> is mccain bitter? i mean, mccain really went after him. it looked like hagel was caught off guard, like john, you and i have been friends for a long time. i did some good things for you. i supported you when i needed it. and you know i'm qualified for this job to be the head of the pentagon, defense secretary. it was almost like he was stunned by it. your thoughts. >> i think you're right. i think it was...
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please go ahead. >> outrageous part about that is john mccain -- i think john mccain. >> what a jerk. >> first of all, he is a jerk. i think john mccain does this whole thing where he is like, wait. there is cameras. oh, camera 2 and he smiles in thecam and he says i am going to act like a crazy person now to get some attention. he knows we are going to talk about it. >> we are talking being war. sometimes it's not a "yes" or "no" answer. it's just the fact. i like the fact this secretary of nominee is not so clear-cut on the issues. he has seen what war does. he served in vietnam. i know john mccain did too. >> i am glad you brought that point up. the interesting thing about this whole situation, this whole scenarios, is that you are correct, and john mccain is good for doing the same thing that chuck hagel did. every time we have a conflict with a third-world nation, he is luke we need to arm the rebels. i think there is a montage and drop -- insert country. bomb the rebels. >> that's the only answer that he has. and history proves, i.e. afghanistan, arming rebels kills american tro
please go ahead. >> outrageous part about that is john mccain -- i think john mccain. >> what a jerk. >> first of all, he is a jerk. i think john mccain does this whole thing where he is like, wait. there is cameras. oh, camera 2 and he smiles in thecam and he says i am going to act like a crazy person now to get some attention. he knows we are going to talk about it. >> we are talking being war. sometimes it's not a "yes" or "no" answer. it's just...
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. >> john mccain really took some heat. >> just ask john mccain. >> you're a senator with the federal government. >> question after angry question. >> you said build a dang fence, where is the fence? >> why didn't the army go down this and stop them? >> this is not john mccain's first rodeo. >> john mccain was on "meet the press," questioning president obama's judgment. >> he has had no communications with republicans on the issue. >> let me see if you have this correct, when you select sarah palin are you allowed to question anyone's judgment? >> just nine days until the federal government faces yet another one of those dramatic deadlines that it never faced before, just before they took control of the white house. president obama took part of today doing local television interviews for markets in oklahoma and south carolina and texas and five other states about the consequences of the sequester spending cuts and how they can be stopped. >> we had the good folks of oklahoma write in the questions that they wanted me to ask you. oklahoma has a large number of federal employees. why wi
. >> john mccain really took some heat. >> just ask john mccain. >> you're a senator with the federal government. >> question after angry question. >> you said build a dang fence, where is the fence? >> why didn't the army go down this and stop them? >> this is not john mccain's first rodeo. >> john mccain was on "meet the press," questioning president obama's judgment. >> he has had no communications with republicans on the issue....
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this is who john mccain is. this is a man who is showing no principle other than peak. turned on as you showed his supposed friend chuck hagel, supposed comrade in arms in a matter of hours to decide to brook this rear guard effort to drum up dirt on this poor man who has been through i think enough at this point in terms of trying to get barack obama the defense secretary that he wants. and they've [ inaudible ] kelly ayotte into their club because lieberman is gone. this band standing in the way of this guy getting an up or down vote. they have no precedent other than saying we're going to torture this guy because he turned against the iraq war, period. >> i'm not as tough as you are today. joy, i will say this, we'll know the true color of mr. mccain's feelings about life and values when that right wing crowd inevitably turns on his friend. >> yeah. >> and you know they will. >> they will. >> and they go to graham in the next primary fight in south carolina and he will have to stand up for his friend. >> thank you. >> coming up, are you now or have you ever been, tho
this is who john mccain is. this is a man who is showing no principle other than peak. turned on as you showed his supposed friend chuck hagel, supposed comrade in arms in a matter of hours to decide to brook this rear guard effort to drum up dirt on this poor man who has been through i think enough at this point in terms of trying to get barack obama the defense secretary that he wants. and they've [ inaudible ] kelly ayotte into their club because lieberman is gone. this band standing in the...
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john mccain said i don't know the answers to those questions. my guess is neither does david gregory and lots of other reporters. they don't know the answers either. they have shown a breathtaking lack of curiosity about those questions. when john mccain comes up with this and says, what are the answers? david gregory ought to be more curious about what those answers are. >> bill: that is why i thought mccain won because you care about this because we don't know how these men died. >> but you know what, john mccain and others on the right believe that president obama has not answered these important questions about benghazi and he got away with it because the media was complicit. >> bill: media doesn't hold president obama for anything. >> that is bigger issue. i think there are two reasons. one reason has to do with barack obama and the other reason has to do with roger a ails. the media adore him and they respect him that has not happened before. that is because he is young. he is cool. he is black and he is liberal. if he were conservative th
john mccain said i don't know the answers to those questions. my guess is neither does david gregory and lots of other reporters. they don't know the answers either. they have shown a breathtaking lack of curiosity about those questions. when john mccain comes up with this and says, what are the answers? david gregory ought to be more curious about what those answers are. >> bill: that is why i thought mccain won because you care about this because we don't know how these men died....
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anybody who ever saw mccain grill donald rumsfield knows that this is john mccain. this is his job. they are there to advise and consent, not to rubber stamp. if they are not going to get the scrutiny and tough questions now, then when? >> why was he so much tougher on chuck hagel than john kerry? >> because there are so many inconsistencies with hagel. i have never -- i don't remember a hearing where there were clarifications to clarifications that then had to be clarified. when there were so many, i regret having said that. there were so many what i meant to say, what i should have said, because he was doing a terrible job, because he's not giving answers. john kerry gave answers. we just saw an interview with leon panetta where he gave answers. he answered masterfully. we saw three tough hearings this week. secretary clinton on benghazi. we saw john kerry go through a hearing. and chuck hagel. and you can not compare the first two to chuck hagel. after i watched the hearing, i remembered the lyrics to a country song. you mean i shaved my legs for this? you mean we're having this
anybody who ever saw mccain grill donald rumsfield knows that this is john mccain. this is his job. they are there to advise and consent, not to rubber stamp. if they are not going to get the scrutiny and tough questions now, then when? >> why was he so much tougher on chuck hagel than john kerry? >> because there are so many inconsistencies with hagel. i have never -- i don't remember a hearing where there were clarifications to clarifications that then had to be clarified. when...
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john mccain was looking for viication for the surge. chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue it is chuck hagel. his prproblem is not synta it is elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as a legitimate elected government. we know that the revolutution of 2009 was sparked by the fact that it was a rigd election, at an illegitimate government. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he was asked about the policy of contaient. it was not a bad during issue. he said, yes i support the administration's policy on containment. he then received a note and says i he been told i made a mistake. of course, i am not in support of that.t. the policy of this administration on containining is that it does not have a policy. at which point, democratic senator levin had to rescue him and said, in fact, the administration has a policy of containment, and it is to oppose it. he was clueless. >> colby. clueless? >> he was in a position where he had to dodge a little bit. let'go back to the
john mccain was looking for viication for the surge. chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue it is chuck hagel. his prproblem is not synta it is elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as a legitimate elected government. we know that the revolutution of 2009 was sparked by the fact that it was a rigd election, at an illegitimate government. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he was asked about the policy of...
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. >> you give advice to a guy like john mccain. yeah, you have to be a little more popular with your state if he's aware of it. here he was. this is what happens when the republican party follows the advice of the thoughtful people like michael gerson. he's a former maverick taking on the current maverick. hecht let's go. let's watch. >> why didn't the army go down there and stop them? because the only thing that stops them, i'm afraid to say and it's too damn bad is a gun. that's all that will stop them. >> i remember when you were in bed with kennedy. >> in bed with kennedy? thank you. >> most of the people that come across the border are illiterate, they don't speak english, and they're a dependent class. we have a large group of dependent people that you want to make citizens that are going to be on -- they're going to bebe on medicare, they're going to be on welfare, they're going to be on food stamps, and you know it. >> again -- >> what's going to happen is -- >> again, sir, you're not telling these people the truth. >> you
. >> you give advice to a guy like john mccain. yeah, you have to be a little more popular with your state if he's aware of it. here he was. this is what happens when the republican party follows the advice of the thoughtful people like michael gerson. he's a former maverick taking on the current maverick. hecht let's go. let's watch. >> why didn't the army go down there and stop them? because the only thing that stops them, i'm afraid to say and it's too damn bad is a gun. that's...
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john mccain is a traitor. he said he was a war criminal before they brought him back out of vietnam. people forgot about that. i do not know about senator graham. host: senator mccain defended the reputation of former senator hagel the other day. does that change your opinion at all? caller: i know he did. mccain is on both sides. from let's go to a clip the debate yesterday. this is carl levin, democrat of michigan. he talked about why he thinks the senate should move ahead on this confirmation vote. >> i think the continuation of what amounts to a filibuster, since 60 votes are required, is it too bad when there is a secretary of defense who is leaving to go back to california, and we very much need to have our new secretary of defense in place, given the circumstances in this world. we have a budget crisis in this country, where sequester is confronting us. that sequester will have a damaging effect on the defense department, on the men and women in uniform, and on programs, the equipment, the training that
john mccain is a traitor. he said he was a war criminal before they brought him back out of vietnam. people forgot about that. i do not know about senator graham. host: senator mccain defended the reputation of former senator hagel the other day. does that change your opinion at all? caller: i know he did. mccain is on both sides. from let's go to a clip the debate yesterday. this is carl levin, democrat of michigan. he talked about why he thinks the senate should move ahead on this...
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that 37 states have something to do with that, even john mccain said that he had sticker shock he saw what the final cost would be. eleven aircraft carriers as well, and china has one carrier, that is from the ukrainian navy. i don't know how good they feel about serving in this aircraft carrier, that is exactly what they had. we have over 200 bases and facilities, china has nothing outside of china itself. .. the kid saved a couple hundred billion dollars over the next ten years by reducing that to reasonable 360,000 soldiers. so there are just some of the things that could be done that could get you to that trillion dollars figure that people say would really disarmed the united states. no, it wouldn't. now, 4,807,000,000,000 has already been agreed to by the senate and house of the next ten years of sequestration that would involve another 4,902,000,000,000 which would get you close to trillion, but there won't be a sequestration. so that kind of cutback we will see, and we don't see anyone in the pentagon really working toward this. leon panetta has never really asked for it. so t
that 37 states have something to do with that, even john mccain said that he had sticker shock he saw what the final cost would be. eleven aircraft carriers as well, and china has one carrier, that is from the ukrainian navy. i don't know how good they feel about serving in this aircraft carrier, that is exactly what they had. we have over 200 bases and facilities, china has nothing outside of china itself. .. the kid saved a couple hundred billion dollars over the next ten years by reducing...
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he lost to john mccain that year. but that year, 2008, also was not john mccain's first effort at winning the republican presidential nomination. he had run before as well. he had run in the year 2000, when he lost to george w. bush. and while that john mccain campaign and his loss that year has mostly been remembered for the egregiously racist dirty tricks played against john mccain in the south carolina primary that year, that's mostly what we think of when we think of him losing to george w. bush that year, now what is starting to become the more salient thing about that losing run, about that losing attempt at winning the republican presidential nomination, what seems more salient now is who john mccain's national co-chair was for that run. it was republican senator chuck hagel. there he is. you can see him in the little circle on the left there. with john mccain's entourage as john mccain was getting ready to launch his presidential bid back in 2000. this is the same chuck hagel who is president obama's nominee f
he lost to john mccain that year. but that year, 2008, also was not john mccain's first effort at winning the republican presidential nomination. he had run before as well. he had run in the year 2000, when he lost to george w. bush. and while that john mccain campaign and his loss that year has mostly been remembered for the egregiously racist dirty tricks played against john mccain in the south carolina primary that year, that's mostly what we think of when we think of him losing to george w....
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john mccain was blunt about it. his own state is going flu in a hurry unless republicans make a dramatic -- blue in a hurry on the republicans make a dramatic difference. 1993, the country was 3.5% hispanic. in 2011, 17%. 2050, it will be 29%. whites will have gone from 85% of the national population, down to 48%. >> interesting numbers. >> yes, but we will be kind. [laughter] >> say that in spanish. [laughter] >> my brothers and i will be kind. the reality is, we are not going to send 11 people -- 11 million people back from where they came. and that is the way it should be. the problem will come from those who do not feel there is enough enforcement on the books, and these individuals will probably -- they are picking up the .rgument that is not the major issue, defense. >> san diego put up a triple- strand fence that has decreased entrance by 90%. it works, we ought to try it. the fact nobody wants to is an indication of a lack of seriousness. >> if we cannot solve immigration, how about guns? >> we must do somet
john mccain was blunt about it. his own state is going flu in a hurry unless republicans make a dramatic -- blue in a hurry on the republicans make a dramatic difference. 1993, the country was 3.5% hispanic. in 2011, 17%. 2050, it will be 29%. whites will have gone from 85% of the national population, down to 48%. >> interesting numbers. >> yes, but we will be kind. [laughter] >> say that in spanish. [laughter] >> my brothers and i will be kind. the reality is, we are...
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maybe that edit was cut in a way that's not fair to john mccain. maybe he really wasn't in real time so insensitive and abrasive to a woman who probably deserves some sensitivity when she is talked to about these matters. but for what it's worth, patricia maisch, the woman who disarmed the tucson shooter, she was in the room at that john mccain town hall. she saw the whole thing happen. she saw that woman ask the question about what john mccain thought should be done about gun violence and saw him answer by saying you need some straight talk. and patricia maisch, who was in the room, told talking points memo in an interview after the town hall that she found senator mccain's response "unsatisfactory." "in my opinion," she said, "the comment the senator made saying karen needed some straight talk was a bit disrespectful in light of her son being murdered by a man with a gun less than a year 'ago." according to tpm's interview patricia maisch said she's hopeful mccain will expand background checks for gun sales but then said "you never know what w. t
maybe that edit was cut in a way that's not fair to john mccain. maybe he really wasn't in real time so insensitive and abrasive to a woman who probably deserves some sensitivity when she is talked to about these matters. but for what it's worth, patricia maisch, the woman who disarmed the tucson shooter, she was in the room at that john mccain town hall. she saw the whole thing happen. she saw that woman ask the question about what john mccain thought should be done about gun violence and saw...
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. >> john mccain is not the issue, it is chuck hagel. his problem is not some tax, it is knowledge, elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as illegitimate the elected government. we know that the rolutn of 2009 was part byhe ft tha it was a rigged election, an illegitimate economy. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he said, he was asked about the policy of containment. it was not a bad during issue. he says, yes, i support the administration's policy of containment. he then gets a note that says, i have been told that i made a mistake. of course i am not in support of that. a policy of this administration on containment is that it does t have a policy of containment. at whi poi democratic senator levin had to rescue him and said, in fact, the administration has a policy of containment, and it is to oppose it. he was clueless. >> colby? >> he was in the position where he had to dodge a little bit. let's go back to the exchange with senator mccain on the surge. the issue was never the surge when you ta
. >> john mccain is not the issue, it is chuck hagel. his problem is not some tax, it is knowledge, elementary knowledge. he spoke about the government of iran as illegitimate the elected government. we know that the rolutn of 2009 was part byhe ft tha it was a rigged election, an illegitimate economy. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he said, he was asked about the policy of containment. it was not a bad during issue. he says, yes, i support the administration's policy...
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john mccain so angry? 40 years after the vietnam p.o.w.s came home the most famous of them is angrier than ever. we are we fighting vietnam again in the u.s. senate. the ticked-off hagel, is it just for show? the basic unfairness of vietnam itself that some went and some didn't? is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win the war or end it? what is it about john mccain that seems to excite those who know nothing about vietnam. well tonight we dig into the deep well of resentment burning in john mccain's patriotic heart. a resentment not against the north vietnamese who imprisoned and tortured him, not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stain mccain's reputation. but just like he did, in the same army of america's long nightmare in vietnam. i'm joined by david corn with "mother jones" and joy reed with the grio. i have to tell you i'm convinced we're watching a flashback. watch this, here's senator john mccain, he did a long, angry wind-up before he launched into his first so-c
john mccain so angry? 40 years after the vietnam p.o.w.s came home the most famous of them is angrier than ever. we are we fighting vietnam again in the u.s. senate. the ticked-off hagel, is it just for show? the basic unfairness of vietnam itself that some went and some didn't? is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win the war or end it? what is it about john mccain that seems to excite those who know nothing about vietnam. well tonight we dig into the deep well of resentment burning in...
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john mccain has been on this issue before. it's not surprising but the real fresh face here is marco rubio. he seems to have spent a lot of time going to conservative talk radio to soften the ground. how important is this to him and how important is he to the whole issue? >> marco rubio is a really interesting player, in part because of his own story. he is the son of legal immigrants. >> from cuban to florida. >> right. he is an icon among conservatives who do see him as the future and he has a way of talking about this issue where he had rush limbaugh essentially eating out of his hand so i think that a lot of republicans do look to marco rubio has -- as sort of finding the path but statement you have the 12345r9 from louisiana saying -- senator from louisiana saying marco rubio is just naive. gwen: what about the president's role? they beat him to the punch in the announcement. he went to las vegas the next day and say me too and we hope they mean it. is he waiting for congress to take the lead? >> for now. this has been a
john mccain has been on this issue before. it's not surprising but the real fresh face here is marco rubio. he seems to have spent a lot of time going to conservative talk radio to soften the ground. how important is this to him and how important is he to the whole issue? >> marco rubio is a really interesting player, in part because of his own story. he is the son of legal immigrants. >> from cuban to florida. >> right. he is an icon among conservatives who do see him as the...
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is senator john mccain grilling hagel about hagel's opposition to the surge in iraq in 2007. >> were you correct in your judgment. >> i would defer that to history. >> when you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i played those comments. >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that is a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> senator hagel explained he opposed the surge in iraq because it cost nearly 1200 american lives. >> i saw the consequences and the suffering and the horror of war. so i did question a surge. i always ask the question, is this going to be worth the sacrifice? because there will be sacrifice. >> that was hagel's emphasis on the cost factor. my question is this. his emphasis on the cost factor in military decisions, does it serve as a dodge to senator mccain's bullet? or did he mean this completely from the heart? and if he did, isn't he exactly the man we want over at the department of defense? >> he was talking about the cost of lives. >> that's correct. >> and i think in that exchange that you showed, john mccain indicated how pe
is senator john mccain grilling hagel about hagel's opposition to the surge in iraq in 2007. >> were you correct in your judgment. >> i would defer that to history. >> when you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i played those comments. >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that is a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> senator hagel explained he opposed the surge in iraq because it cost nearly 1200 american lives....
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john mccain was blunt about it. his own state is going blue in a hurry, unless republicans make a dramatic difference. in 1960, the country was 3.5% hispanic. in 2011, it was 17%. in 2050, it will be 29%. whites will have gone from 85% of the national population, down to 40% in the 90-year span. >> interesting numbers. >> yes, but we will be kind. [laughter] >> say that in spanish. [laughter] >> my brothers and i will be kind. look, the reality is, we are not going to send 11 million people backed where they came. we are going to keep them here, as it should be. the problem is going to come in from those who feel there is not enough enforcement on the books. these individuals will probably pick up the arguments that is advanced by our colleague charles, to have a fence from coast-to-coast. that is not the major issue here. >> san diego put up a triple- strand fence that had decreased apprehension by 92%. fences work. we ought to at least try it. the fact that nobody wants to is an indication of and seriousness about
john mccain was blunt about it. his own state is going blue in a hurry, unless republicans make a dramatic difference. in 1960, the country was 3.5% hispanic. in 2011, it was 17%. in 2050, it will be 29%. whites will have gone from 85% of the national population, down to 40% in the 90-year span. >> interesting numbers. >> yes, but we will be kind. [laughter] >> say that in spanish. [laughter] >> my brothers and i will be kind. look, the reality is, we are not going to...
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i can say, though, john mccain is one of the -- he is serious about all the issues. he is treating this nomination like everything he --s with great seriousness, and i commend him for that. >> we're just learning that at least the associated press and the boston globe both reporting that scott brown will not be running for the seat next toor to you in rhode island. what do you think of that, since he was widely viewed as the biggest challenge to a perspective democrat running for that open seat? of course, the john kerry seat. >> i -- all politics is local. i'm a little surprised, but i -- my reaction would be that he has made a decision. he knows better than anyone what's it like to serve in the senate, what is it like to run for the senate, and you have to thank him for his service and respect his decision. >> and back to the hagel situation and what's going to happen at d.o.d. we've been talking here about how his performance, assuming that he does get confirmed, does that weaken him going into the pentagon where there are a lot of sharks ready to attack? >> no, a
i can say, though, john mccain is one of the -- he is serious about all the issues. he is treating this nomination like everything he --s with great seriousness, and i commend him for that. >> we're just learning that at least the associated press and the boston globe both reporting that scott brown will not be running for the seat next toor to you in rhode island. what do you think of that, since he was widely viewed as the biggest challenge to a perspective democrat running for that...
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i think that almost in a way john mccain made the surge into the war as john mccain would have fought it as commander-in-chief. and anyone who questions it gets the wrath of mccain. and i watched that hearing, that part of the hearing with colonel jack jacobs and pat murphy, the governor of pennsylvania who served in iraq. and both of those guys were at the bottom of the pile. and you view war differently. but the lesson that these two men took from vietnam seems to have been so different. hagel took the questioning, the same thing patrick murphy feels, being lied to and feeling anger for knowing you friends died for what you believe to be a lie. >> here's lindsay graham, badgering defense nominee hagel. about his whether the iranian revolutionary guard should be designated terrorist organization. i think this is aimed at south carolina's right wing. let's listen. >> if there was a vote on the floor of the senate this afternoon, to label the iranian revolutionary guard, the people who have killed our soldiers in iraq, some of the most vicious people to the people of iran themselves, i
i think that almost in a way john mccain made the surge into the war as john mccain would have fought it as commander-in-chief. and anyone who questions it gets the wrath of mccain. and i watched that hearing, that part of the hearing with colonel jack jacobs and pat murphy, the governor of pennsylvania who served in iraq. and both of those guys were at the bottom of the pile. and you view war differently. but the lesson that these two men took from vietnam seems to have been so different....
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and so you saw, for instance, john mccain, incredibly invested in redeeming the surge. check this out and then i want to hear your reaction to it. take a look. >> you stand by that -- those comments, senator hagel? >> well, senator, i stand by them because i made them. and -- >> were you right? were you correct in your assessment? >> well, i would defer to the judgment of history to sort that out, but i'll -- >> i think this committee deserves your judgment as to whether you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i made those comments and -- >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that's a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> the surge assisted in the objective. but if we review the record a little bit -- >> can you please answer the question. were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect, yes or no? >> my reference to the -- >> are you answering the question, senator hagel? the question was were you right or wrong
and so you saw, for instance, john mccain, incredibly invested in redeeming the surge. check this out and then i want to hear your reaction to it. take a look. >> you stand by that -- those comments, senator hagel? >> well, senator, i stand by them because i made them. and -- >> were you right? were you correct in your assessment? >> well, i would defer to the judgment of history to sort that out, but i'll -- >> i think this committee deserves your judgment as to...